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d crazyhorse
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Mr Chuck Dannels, thank you sir for the good information.
I saved it .
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Brad
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Great to see you pop in Todd!

Brad
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dAN, FROM WA, LOOKS LIKE you are set for some mega snow storms with all your equipment! Have fun! :-)
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Great find KB, I bet you will make the most of it! :-)
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Cody Ammon
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the 73 112 and 31 tiller i picked up today
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Dan Ely
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Well I pickup a 318 last night and having a good idea on the order of serial numbers I knew it was an early one. After getting it registered it looks like I have the 3rd earliest 318 in the database! Nice original running tractor with the blower, blade and deck. I already have a 47 blower on one of my 430s and it seems like a bit much at times so I'm interested to see how this 318 handles it. There is a full rack of weights on the back and some off brand wheel weights already installed.

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k b
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Thanks Dave. I see myself using it for plowing my driveway and a tilling side business in the spring if everything works out from now until then. Wrenching is fun, but seat time is better.

Kb
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Dave Dufoe
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Nice rig , kb !
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k b
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Roger,

I found a manual online. They reuse the glow plug light as a fuel injection light. Apparently my code is the air temp sensor. I just ordered one for $20 new.

Apparently the po was incorrect, it does have reo safety.

Kb
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Chuck Dannels
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Roger H.

By gosh you're correct.

Thanks
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Roger Henning
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Chuck throttle shaft installation is in the Kohler K series repair manual which you can down load for free. When you look at that you will find you do not drill for the bushing but just press it in the recess in the top of the carburetor. You might want to read that.

KB why is a glow plug light flashing on a 445 which is a gasoline engine tractor? Roger
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k b
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I went Christmas shopping yesterday too. I left to look at a 445, with 1000 hrs, front and rear blades, a 54 mower and bagger. We had discussed a price range I would be interested in. I brought an extra $500, to negotiate. I had written down the address, and checked my GPS. I got there and there was a Deere in the driveway, but it had a tiller on it, and the number on the closest mailbox didn't match. I wasn't sure I had the right house, maybe they upgraded, the resident was in the driveway, so I went down to see.

Came home with this,



It's a 2000, with 630 hours. It also came with a mint 450 tiller, a similar 10 cart, a 25 gallon sprayer, and 5 suitcase weights. I asked where they wanted to be based on the real situation, and I had just enough to hit the bottom number. We were able to make a deal. I'm going back tomorrow to get the rest, I only had a 4x8 trailer, expecting just the 3 attachments. I might have been able to fit it on, but I had no interest in hauling maxed out, or loading the tiller with just 2 people.

I have the side panels, but the tabs broke. The pto turned on when I was there, but not when I got home. The glowplug light flashes a code 12. And they did say the pto would shut off in reverse, that's not a normal safety on this model, so I'm figuring the tcdm got swapped with a newer model at some time in the past.

It runs pretty good, drives nice, it might find a place in the herd, minus some extras.
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Chuck Dannels
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Crazyhorse,

I bought the rebuild kit from this guy:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Kohler-K301-12HP-ENGINE-REBUILD-KIT-w-FREE-TUNE-UP-/380510134569?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item58982be12944

He needs an email with the piston bore size and rod size. I need a .020 over piston and a .010 under rod. Your machinist will tell you how things look. I also ordered a set of valve guides from him as well.

All in I was at $160 for the machine work and about $140 shipped for the parts.

These two links will help as well:

http://www.kohlerengines.com/onlinecatalog/pdf/tp_2379.pdf

http://gardentractorpullingtips.com/engspecs.htm

Also, does anyone know what size drill I need to use to drill out the Walbro carb throttle shaft so that I can put a new bushing in?

I have a new throttle shaft.

Thanks
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d crazyhorse
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Mr Chuck Dannels, Congratulations on your k301 rebuild. I hope you get many years of use from it.

I have a 312 with the k301 that I need to rebuild some time in the future.
Do you have any advice/ information/tips/help you would share with me ?
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Chuck Dannels
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David C. thanks for the cam info.
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Cody Ammon
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loaded up for road trip tomorrow to get new tractor an tiller

(Message edited by treed on December 20, 2014)
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David A Calkins
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Chuck D the cam will work ,but no change in hp ,
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Roger Henning
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Chuck I had a neighbor bore a 301 out to a 321. About a month after he got it running the engine cracked the top of the block off about 1/2 inch down the bore. To do that you have to bore the engine .125 inches which is a lot. Apparently it will work sometimes but as i said my neighbor wasn't happy with his. It was just a lawn mower not a puller or anything like that. It was in a CC 127. Roger
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Chuck Dannels
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I just finished rebuilding my k301 and it's in the 110 and running just fine. I saw another thread that said that I could have bored it to k321 size and I wish that I would have run that by you guys before rebuilding this motor.

The real question I have is about the camshaft that is in another motor. The rod broke and grenaded inside of the block. Initial inspection show that the fuel pump lobe on the cam is deeply scored. I need to know if k321 or k341 cams differ from the k301.

Thanks
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Terry Reed
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Wow, Todd, I haven't seen you on the site in a while.

For those of you who were asking about the 2015 calendar, here is my last draft before finalization. Sorry for not posting it here, but file size is too large and reducing it loses most of the quality.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/243581455803661/381980731963732/

Last page here: http://www.greentractortalk.com/forums/vintage-general-discussion/15380-2015-green-tractor-talk-l-g-calendar-2.html#post174855
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Todd Russo
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I agree with Terry about being here since Day 1. In fact there is more to the story of what happened even before Day 1 on how we got to this site. We actually started out in 1998 as a Voyager formatted group forum. And, the twisted and tangled story gets better from there for a couples years before we settled here at WFM.

I could tell you more but we would need a choice beverage and some appropriate soap opera music playing softly in the background.
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Grant Baker
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Sorry Jason,didn't mean to pick on you!
A book on L&G tractors isn't possible,as it would take volumes,for sure
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Jason Salber
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What I would "like" and what and what I will/can do are two different things. I'd "like" a few hundred million and some nice arm candy...but it just isn't going to happen.

I really don't see much sense in doing a book on this site...I see the site as it is...a site. It would be like writing a book about another book.

Doing a LG book(s) could be fun and interesting and I'm sure I'd learn a lot...however, I just don't have that knowledge to share. Every time I pick up a J.R. Hobbs book or one of similar ilk, one thing is very apparent. Not only are they gathering a lot of information, they are sharing their knowledge of the equipment based on experience. That just isn't me.
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Terry Reed
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Unless you been here since day one, doing a book on this site would be difficult. There a few of us that's been here since day one, but the list is getting smaller. Also, this site crashed a few years ago and most of the early archives were lost. Plus a book on this site wouldn't be that informative nor detailed.
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Grant Baker
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Jason says; "I've been chatting with another writer"

I think he really wants to do it,but rather than starting at the beginning and finishing at the present. Why not do a book on Weekend Freedom Machines(this site)

just an idea
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charles szymcik
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Hi I replacing wiper motor in my 140 cozy cab.
whats the best place to pull power from, i think it was hooked to the coil but not sure. It hasn't been used for a few years, the motor still worked but the knurled fitting was destroyed. bought the TMC 00902 two speed although i think the 1 inch shaft would work also.
Thanks
Chuck
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charles szymcik
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Hi I replacing wiper motor in my 140 cozy cab.
whats the best place to pull power from, i think it was hooked to the coil but not sure. It hasn't been used for a few years, the motor still worked but the knurled fitting was destroyed. bought the TMC 00902 two speed although i think the 1 inch shaft would work also.
Thanks
Chuck
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k b
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Garrett only the foil tags, and brass tag models with e0900 as a type.
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Garrett Heale
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Does the 80 carts have a serial number list so you can know the exact year?
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B.A. Babbitt
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Addendum to the previous post:

50+ YRS. is a lot general reference history.

JD L&G tractors & attachments are still being manufactured & sold though. So - how to provide a "book"; where would
it cut-off per se? (Still think it'd take volumes.) Would be pretty cool & neat I think. to you if you can do it. Bobo
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Jason Salber
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No...I'm trying to talk someone else into doing it! (I know...good luck) I certainly don't have the resources to tackle such a project...most of you and myself would likely be 6 feet deep before it's finished!

I've been chatting with another writer who has some experience required nothing of them and Deere never asked for anything either. However, he also didn't use archived information or pictures.

Bobo, I certainly considered what it would all entail. First, there is no way all relevant information can be covered between two covers. I see no sense including maintenance, restoration and service information...that's what parts, service and operators manuals are for. The catch 22 is...you have to provide enough information in each volume to make it marketable. For instance...one book can't be about round fender tractors then the next about the attachments. Enthusiasts outside of this forum will likely never buy a book solely on attachments. At the same time, a book couldn't be overloaded with irrelevant minutia making it an impossible read.

I'm already getting a headache just thinking about it...I can't imagine even beginning such a process.

Grant, if you want to give me a $50K startup grant...I'll certainly consider it! lol
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Jason,
My 2 cents: 50+ yrs. of JD L&G tractors & attachments. One book to cover all could/would be heavy\huge. Done right, would have to be in a series, like the old Time-Life Books although wouldn't have to be hard cover. Be time consuming & expensive of course & would a series or individual books sell enough to make it all worthwhile?
Would JD go for it? 50+ yrs. is a lot of history............ Bobo
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Grant Baker
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Jason,are you trying to talk yourself into writing a book? Someone has to do it,and I only have 9th grade,but I will be happy to purchase and read it once you have it published!!!
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Jason Salber
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I was mostly thinking of a general reference book...similar to what the Green Magazine has published for the different series of 2 cylinders and the new generation tractors. Attachments could be included as well. Depending on the volume of information, the number of books can be varied with history splits. All facts, no opinions. If any of you are familiar with the Green Magazine books, you will notice that each chapter covers a different model...with almost identical content to feature green mag articles.

I don't know that I'd be too concerned about gathering private pictures from owners...photo content would likely best be taken from literature and other advertising.
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Jason Salber
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Thanks for the info guys...I didn't think there was a book out there...I did my digging, but it's always good to come to this site as a source. In my opinion...if someone were to write a book on Deere L&G tractors, the best route to take would be to talk to Deere and get their permission...they could open up a large amount of sources. Granted, the author would have to be someone who has credibility. Unfortunately, most of those guys are likely tied up in numerous other projects.
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Cody Ammon
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Well i hate to say it but its time to say goodbye 72 112 its going down the road for a truck i really like this tractor sucks i have to let it go
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k b
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Josh,

Welcome to WFM. this section probably is not the correct section for you question.

You should both start a new thread, by selecting 'forums' up at the top, then going to the 'restoration and repair' section, then the 'hydrostatic drive' section. There you will find a list of threads. Just above the different discussions listed, you will see 'start a new thread'.

http://www.weekendfreedommachines.com/discus/messages/17/61368.html?1418721620

KB
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Cody Ammon
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kb it has 2 extensions on it one on each side and thank you will have to post pics

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